Grenade Launcher issues - can it be limited somehow?

You have issues staying on topic. And rest assured, I in no way confused or misunderstood any of that shit you call a post.

It's force of habbit to watch how other players deal with and try to use abilities and path in ways not intended by the designer. It is why I watch people play.

When I suggest that I can learn nothing from watching you play, is because you don't really do anything out of the norm. You have never done anything that is what I would consider "outside of the box" with any of the abilities or with how you use the weapons.

But alas, like most of your other posts, none of this has anything to do with the grenade launcher being so ridiculous.

But hey, I'm sure Honorcode will take you up on your stupid suggestion of just increasing the gem cost...god only knows that it certainly will not mean that you won't have the same damn problem a few months down the road when most people finally save up the gem cost.

Unless your logic is that players will grow bored of the mod before they ever get to 65 gems?

Maybe you could offer up more idiotic suggestions, to Honorcode, since you two seem to think alike. Shit like temporary god mode, auto teleport, a 60 foot radius swing on melee, or a giant black hole that sucks up all the special infected and common alike! Hey! this is an RPG server right? If you got it, flaunt it...right?

Now try to do yourself a favor and stay on topic...rather than cry out "MR T does RAMBO! HE AINT NO TEAM PLAYA!"

This thread is about people hating on auto aim in a fps. Specifically the grenade launcher. (both the haves and the have nots alike...) Increasing the cost to 50 bounty has helped from what I saw during the limited amount of playing I have done over the past few days...so Honorcode is on the right track. I still think it should be removed entirely from the mod, and from what I have read...outside of your opinion...I'm not alone.

 

Ah, Mr T is not happy today.

Rubbing shoulders again huh, so cute Mr T.

What is there to watch in the first place.. lol, your funny man.. you dont need instruction on how to use the abilities, even a kid like scar kingpro can play so well without instruction.. (Mr T.. watch players.. seriously....) lol..
unless of course that player is a big time noob, then im really sorry..

So now we have to follow Mr T's standard of gaming and also when posting in forum too, else Mr T get moody. and nobody wants to see a moody Mr T. it is scary

ok i follow your advise Mr T, afterall, as you proudly proclaim that you are the MOST HARDWORKING AND EXPERIENCE game designer who is actually being PAID as a job from some BIG TIME game studio. i will not digress Respect to you Mr T.

so as not to digress off topic, yeah increase the gem cost to 65 for heat missile.

 

Ok apparently english is beyond your understanding.

I watch players to see what paths they take, which weapons they use, how they use it...where they camp. how do they use infected, more specifically, how they use infected's server specific abilities...have players found exploits? Are they pathing properly to the end...are certain weapons being favored over others, if so...why?

Some people...they call it...*gasp* play testing. And it's a force of habit after 7 years of watching people play my games. You need to get over this, because I'm not going to try and explain it to you again.

 

fyi, my first language is english and working for my goverment requires very good english..

PR been running for months now, theres nothing new to learn unless you have new maps like coldstream or custom map.

thats why |MG|choochoo's custom map helps to bring new creative gameplay to the game.
As a game designer, i thought you would understand this but i find its funny that your against custom pathing, else there is really nothing to watch but the same gameplay and common practice of killing survivor or killing infecteds.

and like you said, i need to get over this as you won't explain it again
Well i'm over it now and not to digress, the next step for heat missile is to restrict it to just coop if players are persistent to remove this magnificent ability.

 

This concept might be hard for you to grasp, but gameplay evolves. as new talents keep getting implemented, it also skews the gameplay. When people play a map for the first few months, they tend to learn and change how they play, as they start evolving with what works and what doesn't work.

Gameplay evolves.

Again, this is why, in most every other first person shooter, from quake 1 to halo...theirs a select few maps that are made, and played to death without change or alteration. The re playability is in the gameplay. People keep coming back, because the GAMEPLAY is sound. Not because the map's been changed.

Choo Choo's map alterations also never took into account the originally designers plans for each individual section, the overall pacing of the map, and how the length plays out in the overall theme of entire map.

For instance. Not every map needs to be 10 miles long to run through. Smaller "rush" maps are put in for a reason, especially for versus, as these are the maps that beginners actually have a chance of completing.

The second thing Choo Choo did which was a no no from what I saw of his dead center alterations, is he removed key smoker sections by his placement of pathways, and yet put karma charging areas on rails. Not everyone can spawn as a charger, and smokers had their place on that map before Choo Choo fucked with it.

While this is a modded server, the original map balance still needs to be taken into account to provide gameplay moments for each infected. Afterall, the original map was playtested and designed very specifically to how valve wanted it to be.

While it was all clever how you tried to spin what I typed to you back onto me, it's still pretty clear you haven't a single fucking clue what you are talking about.

But hey, feel free to come down on me if I try to sound like I know the first thing about being a social worker.

Players hate the function because at it's core it's auto aim. (I want you to read that sentence a few times to yourself so that it's meaning sinks in...) That's why you get so many complaints about this ability. Nobody likes dying to some idiot who can't aim. It's why you do not see this feature in any other first person game. It's not fun for anybody, especially the guy who just died.

50 bounty has helped tone it down (meaning that it's never used) So I think the complaints will stop. In the end, it's more or less removed from versus. So I'm happy.

Your stupid 65 gem increase to the cost idea, would have only delayed the complaints another few months. But of course, it would not have solved the problem. In a few months time, as many people that have it now would have saved up and got it then, it would be spammed then just as it is now, and the boards would be full of people bitching about it.

 

Well, with your attitude and gameplay, it doesn't take a genius to know that your not a socialist, your 3 famous words already gave it away (Mr T... XXXX... seriously).. lol...

this what i like about you game designer, its always about you you you. what you think is more holy than what others think.. and frankly most game designers never take gametesters seriously, that why so many big name FPS game gets lots of complaints even after their official launch.

man, i literally laugh everytime you says theres NO AUTO AIM in FPS, are you really a game designer, im starting to doubt you man.. hell, its the internet.. anybody can claim they are what they are.. lol..

I have played so many FPS games, and i can tell you FPS does have auto aim or atleast even aim assist.. i didn't want to break it to you.. just wanna play along with your game designer profession.. but seriously dude..that speeches about no auto aim in FPS.. totally is the joke of the day dude (actually it was dayssssss ago).. lol

and also from what you said "While it was all clever how you tried to spin what I typed to you back onto me..." well, i do work for the goverment.. how the hell do you think we manage to fool the citizens of its money.. lol

 

Could you like, stfu now? You ran out of an opinion like 4 pages ago...and this is getting boring.

 

Wow, last time I saw this thread it was only 2 pages O_o

 

This is nowhere near the topic of discussion, you are digressing Mr T..
@ kitties, Hell Yeah, 7 pages long of AWESOMENESS..

This thread should be in the thrash by now. we already did solve the GL issue partially.

 

You haven't been on topic for 4 pages. You've been trolling.

 

I agree the grenade launcher issue was solved but some of the ideas in this thread (especially from Mr T ) are yet to be considered.

Aside from all the bickering and the arguing between littlebrother and Mr T I've found it wise to remove grenade launcher spawns from the maps on PR as people are madly in love with them.

I think ChooChoo's custom paths would do good on a Custom Maps server so you wont have any issues there.

I also think that the gem cost should be removed and changed into massive, massive bounty cost so that's aside.

:closed_2: :wave:

 

i did??? i thought i was contributing, i guess its not easy for a simpleton to understand what im contributing.

let me make it easy for you in your own words Mr T...

GL.... 6 gems..... seriously....
GL ... auto aim.... seriously...
GL... shoot sky.. seriously....
GL.... noobs.. seriously...

lol, i think i'm getting closer in understanding Mr T.. we could be BFF Mr T.

edit, legend got to reply before me.. lol.. this is a private thread, exclusive..

 

Closed (again) (since littlebother unnecessarily reopened it and forgot to close it -faceplam- lol)