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Grenade Launcher issues - can it be limited somehow?

Discussion in '[L4D2] Points Reloaded' started by smokke1982, May 13, 2011.

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  1. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    Like the title says, i noticed a few things about GL.

    Today I was playing the last part of the Dark carnival campaign on USA PR Versus server. i won't say anything about the teams being unbalanced as they were. What i've noticed here, and on other mapsas well, is that the survivor team (all lvl 75+ with the heat missile buff, at least Candlejack, ami-lee and a few more) had grenade launchers, about 5 or 6 of them. and guess what, all were pointing towards the sky and randomly shooting. Well now, try and play as an infected when you have 5-6 missiles coming towards you at any time....

    Question: can the purchase of the GL be limited somehow? For example Dark Carnival's last map has about 2-3 GL's that spawn on top of one tower. Can it be made that if there already are let's say more than 3 GL's on the map nobody buys no more than 2 ? It's like you do with the tanks. Spawn limit for tanks is 5, lwhy not the GL limit be 5/map.

    Otherwise i fear that there will be teams of survivors all highlevel and armed with the GL and everybody will team-switch to the survivors and get a GL as soon as they have the bounty to do so.

    P.S: on the other hand, the heat missile/GL combo is:
    1. way cheaper than the tank's Mind controlled rock (if i recall, MC Rock is about 65 gems, correct me if I am wrong)
    2. everybody on the survivor team can have the Buff+GL at almost any time, while the SI is limited by number of tanks that can be spawned and the cost of the buff. Therefore most players are inclined to spend 5 or 10 gems on the missile buff and prefer the survivor team rather than the SI)

    I hope i'm not being offensive, it's just a thought from a usual player....

    Adrian
     
  2. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    i think in the point that gl with 15 bounty is too cheap for versus. should be 25bty because heatseeking.
    but a gl limit is bad because how u can choose who get gl? the first 5? and the other just bad luck.. isnt balanced
    but how i know u cant buy the special buffs anymore?is that right?
     
  3. Nerfarious

    Nerfarious MG Donor

    Just... LOOOOL next thing you know there is homing spitter acid xDD
     
  4. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    that works too....if a tank is now 60 BP why not make the GL more expensive, like 30BP or 45 BP...

    the problem i see with the tank vs GL is that if you buy a tank someone else might get it as for the GL, you buy it, it's yours!
     
  5. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    FYI,

    GL already cost 50 BP, its just not updated in other server.
     
  6. Ami-Lilian

    Ami-Lilian MG Donor

    They should just give the heat sinking missile buff a percent chance of following special infected.
     
  7. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    i rather go for a decrease in damage than having chances of following special infected.

    then it should not be name heat missile if its gonna be base on chances.

    the reason why people are complaining about heat missile buff is that they did not buy them, they should go and get them and enjoy the game like any other players.

    i have no complaint dying as infected as a result of being chase by heat missile. its what RPG is all about, its like the game WOW,

    PR is all about leveling up and who can get the special abilities, if you dont have it, then work on it like every other players have done,

    i played a game yesterday and a new player name glitching .... was complaining about Mr T exploiting the GL's heat missile. i told him this mod is RPG with special abilities to gain if you have the requirement, and he can tell me its not fair. i told him i have the same ability as Mr T. that y balancing team scramble is very essential. if not, one side will be overpowered than the other. and i was in the same team as glitching.. and we were not losing, we were wining. i cannot understand why glitching complaints so much.

    i think there shoulld be like a description for new players when they join PR or maybe a message that appear in game telling players that this mod is RPG so that new players would stop complaining.
     
  8. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    man..that is not the issue, one or 2 players can be playable, but when as a SI you are going from missile to missile it get annoying
    and I do have the GL buff but you don't see me over using it...
     
  9. Ami-Lilian

    Ami-Lilian MG Donor

    I would rather it not be in versus at all, its already unbalance as it is.
     
  10. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    well, like i said its RPG, abilities are not limited to number of players,

    if you have it, flaunt it.. lol..

    im sure every other player would like to enjoy their abilities that they bought, but if they are restricted to limitation, then whats the point. the first few regular/ pro players like "Koopa"will always get the chance to use GL very often. then others wont enjoy it since its be limited.

    i agree with the high cost of 50 BP for GL but not limiting it, as i wanna enjoy what i bought.
     
  11. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    i agree with this, i rather have the heat missile in coop then versus. like how sprint is limited to coop and not in versus.

    but then again, i wonder why EU PR versus still has sprint on? lol..
     
  12. KiLl3rAs

    KiLl3rAs MG Donor

    If you up the price in 50 who buy this... Personnaly me stop buying this....
     
  13. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    i stop buying it when they raise it to 50 in usa and sydney server, not sure about eu, brasil and hongkong.
     
  14. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    That actually would be a good idea. make it 50 BP and if you really want one just save up bounty and do it :)
     
  15. davzee

    davzee <img src="http://mgftw.com/webdesigner.png" />

    I personally hate the homing GL and find it very irritating sometimes especially when a few of the regulars spam it 24/7 because they know its OP....ive personally NEVER actually used it because in all honesty i think its cheap n noobish lol but each to their own i guess. 50 bounty sounds reasonable to me.
     
  16. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    It's 50 on Sydney already, so I made it 50 on all other versus servers as well, not on coop though. Let me know how this works out :)
     
  17. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    that should prevent overuse of the GL....like i said, one or 2 are oki on a vs server, but 4 or 5 are already to much.... :)
     
  18. Raised in Hell

    Raised in Hell Senior Member

    What if (i'm sure they will) Med/high level players start playing mostly on COOP because
    1) Buying GL is cheaper on COOP
    2) Therefore it would be much easier to earn more points,exp etc on COOP
     
  19. littlebrother

    littlebrother MG Donor

    I think with the different cost of GL in versus and coop, it should attract different players.
    i use to go to coop for gems, but now since i need to level up quick, versus server is more logical for me in getting a quick experience points due to the different level of players there that can give me different amount of exp points when i kill them or hurt them as infected or survivors.

    COOP doesnt really give you that much exp as all the infecteds are level one (but with max abilities) and mostly those who rush infront gets the toaster and those who managed to survive after killing tank also gets the toaster. So you cant really get enough exp points there.

    COOP is like what ICE would say, "its a peaceful place for players to just relax and get to know one another," afterall mutated tank is only available in finale. The rest of the time you will be chatting with each other in coop like how Nerfarious would say, "angelina jolie is hotter than jennifer aniston" and i would say, " brad pitt is one lucky guy," lol..

    and if high level choose to go coop, it would be great, atleast the PR versus server would not be so concentrated with high level players, leaving no room for new/ low level players to really play.
    also even if high level players go to coop, i have seen high level players like bloodhand guiding new/ low level players about PR server. so i guess its all fair.
     
  20. Nova

    Nova Senior Member

    You sure? Last time I saw him, he was the first one rushing out of the safe room each time (while others were loading, and he wasn't alone either), basically rushing in a straight line probably out of boredom, and I don't remember him speaking either... the last time I saw him say something was about how there was no point for him to play on COOP anymore if he couldn't get gems from mutated tanks... but then again I don't quite remember all the chat logs from yesterday. I've just never seen him guide anyone and at this moment have a bad impression of him.

    To get back on topic, the m60 is 50 bounty already. The GL has more or less the same purpose, not to mention it even has a special homing missile buff, and putting it at the same price if not more would be good.
     
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