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'Hidden Infected' mod

Discussion in '[L4D2] Hidden Infected' started by marvel, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. longjohn

    longjohn Member

    some changes are needed for the c4, it seems its becoming way to easy not only spot them but the beeping completely gives away their location.

    some options to change the c4

    1. completely stealth the c4
    2. noticable on the floor like it is now but does not beep
    3. beeping can only be heard once detective research it but it cannot be cheap

    it seems the beeping is bit much. We can see when a person drops it, and even notice it on the floor easily but the beeping simply making it too easy for the surv. I've actually stopped telling people where the c4 is even when I'm surv. (haha)

    some other interesting ideas maybe worth exploring

    1. design mines to look like pills or objects which surv would want to walk up to.
    the surv would see pills and most likely run towards them! (haha)
    2. pills which infected drop, once surv uses them on themselves they either die or take damage rather then increase health.
    (how much health they lose can be debated but the idea itself might be worth exploring.)

    we still need some tasks for the surv to do. Force them to perform maintenance on those barricades or else they break? forces groups to split up since maps have more then one barricade. Though once broken it cannot be fixed sort of thing.
     
  2. Valandil

    Valandil Member

    IMO if c4 stopped beeping, i'll always use c4 from then on.. because at many spot, especially under a bush, undetected c4 will be like a guaranteed kill mostly.. the trainyard will be definitely a deathtrap for survivor.. i'd simply place my c4 under the office immediately.. because as the stage started, survivor rarely dares to venture there, so no spotting risk :p
     
  3. tank

    tank MG Donor

    Or make it beep after 5 sec been dropped will give chance to inf not be caught
     
  4. longjohn

    longjohn Member

    the whole point of it to stop beeping is to make it more challenging. Don't you notice how easy it is to find it? does it take much effort from any of us but simply increase our volume speakers? I'm not saying make it super hard but it should not be this easy.

    Allow the detective to play larger in this. He can enhance surv abilities through upgrades, he can upgrade things for the surv to hear the beeping. Much like he can defuse the c4 through upgrades, he can allow the surv to hear the beeping but through an upgrade.

    hearing the beeping is given to the surv by default, that is my problem here. We already can easily spot it on the floor and even notice it being dropped. we need to change things what make the game too easy, a simple tweak is needed.

    Tank's idea might work. Once the c4 is dropped it can beep for certain amount of time and simply stop.
     
  5. Valandil

    Valandil Member

    yes.. agreed.. tank idea is good.. as the c4 explodes after 45 sec.. mabybe the first 5-10 sec the c4 is silent, thus giving the c4 better chance to blow survivor to bits :p
    but idk.. sometimes it hard to hear the c4 beeping, especially when some player just speaks using mic and wouldn't shut up :p
    or when someone just constantly shooting at nothing.. i sometimes must stop walking and carefully listens to the beeping to make sure that it's really the beeping or just my imagination :D
    but often i still got killed by c4 when the condition is chaotic, inf shooting this or that, or players saying this or that suspicious.. i simply walk into oblivion..

    the problem with linking c4 detecting ability with detective is quite hard, as when theres under 11 ppl playing no player would be assigned as detective, thus rendering the survivor blind or deaf to c4 trap..
     
  6. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    So, what is the deal with ChooChoo no longer being mod/admin? Truth be told he was one of the few who I saw that actually kicked some people. Lost 250 karma this morning by some idiot who just random shoots. Please bring back the Choo, or bring back the votekick.

    Also: Mines need to be stronger
     
  7. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    No response? Weird. In any case. Is there any one here? So I understand HC being busy but from what i understood Choo wanted to help a bit. Perhaps that is not a bad thing? Some maps could surely use some fixes. And I could certainly use an admin!

    Also: Mines need to be stronger
     
  8. erik

    erik MG Donor

    It's not wierd, Rivion. It's none of your business, that's why no one responded to it. Admin staff-related issues are for admins only, obviously.

    Anything regarding mines and what-not will be clarified by HonorCode.
     
  9. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    Of course, you are right about that.

    But in the end is about creating a good running mod, with a server that is full the whole time (or so i suspect.)

    And please. Just do the best thing for the server.

    Cause i really like this mod, and it would be a shame to see it strand because of flaws in the map and just general idiots on the server, without any admins to contain them!
     
  10. SyNToRAS

    SyNToRAS Junior Member

    I got a problem on the hidden infected mod: all the time when my karma reaches 2000 anyway it loses 900 so i just have 1130 and now my karma was set 3times to 1130 thats awful i couldn't even get 2000 pls check that and fix it if you can
     
  11. Tell Me Something New

    Tell Me Something New Junior Member

    I made a thread regarding a new map, i love these maps but i would really like a new one.
     
  12. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    What is the karma drop for survivor killing these days? I lost 327 karma with killing one person? It is quite a steep price to pay.
     
  13. ZombieGirl

    ZombieGirl Senior Member

    Especially when it dropped because you killed someone who was killing you...
    And after that happens a few times you can't even call a voteban because the teamkiller you want to kick has dropped your karma dramaticly..
    Something really needs to be done about the teamkillers,at least more active admins.
     
  14. ChooChoo

    ChooChoo Head Administrator Staff Member

    I agree with that, especially at the wee hours where I don't know if anyone else is even awake. o:

    And I still can't seem to use voteban to help get rid of trouble on here either.
     
  15. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    The whole karma system should be looked at to be honest. I lost karma because of c4, i cannot control my teammates. Same with mines. They see the range, they see the timing. How can I use c4 with idiots on my team? Currently at 750 karma after being on 2k for ages. Cannot seem to get it up again, because if I am inf i always gain karma drops on my c4.

    Also, Inf should get like 10 karma per kill. That would be nice.
     
  16. Rivion

    Rivion MG Donor

    Heard HC did this yesterday. Very nice. I even noticed i killed inf with c4 and it said (no karma loss) or something. Which i really like. Also the Karma-per-kill makes it extra fun to hunt as inf.
     
  17. ChooChoo

    ChooChoo Head Administrator Staff Member

    We need a solution to infected players calling kos, accidental or purposely. O:
     
  18. Ampelius

    Ampelius MG Donor

    And also to random KOSers and people who fire small shots to "test" suspicious people.
     
  19. Jost

    Jost Game Server Moderator

    Well atm, the taser doesnt work and the detective shoots the people now instead of tasing them... maybe that's the problem Amp
     
  20. Valandil

    Valandil Member

    Yeah, taser often didn't work.. few days ago it still works, but this past days, it just didn't anymore.. tested with double pistol, magnum..