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'Hidden Infected' mod

Discussion in '[L4D2] Hidden Infected' started by marvel, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. tank

    tank MG Donor

    Dear santa i wish.... :) jk.
    It would be nice to make it that survivors can explode barrels to, since now many guys who playing as survivor shooting the barrels on start to approve that they are not infected,its some kind of cheating,which make the game boring.
     
  2. Tricky

    Tricky MG Donor

    But then you'd end up with survivors trolling survivors by shooting the barrels :/
     
  3. tank

    tank MG Donor

    Yea and if they trolling they lose karma:) very simple,
    i sow last night guy drop down karma til 85 :) he get scared and left game :) he didn not want get banned.So it works, people like server and want continue to play there.
     
  4. Jost

    Jost Game Server Moderator

    well focus on one barrel-shooter... ask him every round to proof, that he is surv... if he isnt shooting, u know that he is inf... (99.9%) :P
     
  5. Y o u

    Y o u Member

    Just a small suggestion. When a survivor kills a detective they should lose more karma then just killing an ordinary survivor. It's kinda weird for a survivor to say I don't trust you and start shooting you when I'm a detective with a blue alligator on top of my head and clearly not a hidden infected.
     
  6. That is team-killing already. They should not only lose karma, they should also lose the chance to play on the server.
    Please do let us know if there are such incidents. Thanks.
     
  7. Guil

    Guil Junior Member

    By the way, what happened to the scientists? I remember being able to play as one not too long ago, but not anymore. Have they been removed?

    PS: Sorry if this has been answered before, but with 14 pages full of posts it would take me a lot of time to check them all x.x
     
  8. erik

    erik MG Donor

    If memory serves, there was either some kind of bug or HonorCode is tweaking the functionality to make them more useful. I'm pretty sure it's one of those, just kinda fuzzy on it atm. ;)

    Speaking of HonorCode, you guys really should say something to him when you see him in-game. He's been busting his ass left & right to make this what it is. If you knew how much work he really put into this place, you'd never stop thanking him.
     
  9. Skaank

    Skaank Junior Member

    Thank you for coming up with this mod!

    The Hidden Infected mod is my fave game now, when I started playing the mod my karma went right up to and stayed around 2000 until the other day when the karma system changed...

    It defeats the main fun & purpose of the mod so I'm 100% against the RDM team killing but now after several times of infected players walking right into my C4 and dying plus a few fake KOS that turned out to be survivors and then several morons attacking me when i was detective so I had to kill them and they turn out to be just survivors probably doing a "suicide by cop" grief so now my karma is only 300 after 1 day and i'm afraid to play on the server for fear I will be banned if any more infected walk into my C4...

    I'm afraid to shoot back when I'm being shot at, even when I'm taking huge damage, because I'm afraid of accidentally killing more of these crazy survivors that go around just shooting at everybody for no reason so now I'm too easy to kill...

    I think it would solve many problems if a detective has to kill a survivor that shoots him 1st and does some damage that the survivor who is killed for attacking the detective takes the karma deduction.

    Also if somebody types KOS on a survivor then I think they should take the karma deduction not the poor guy that actually kills him by their false KOS.

    Plus, is there any way to make C4 not team killing? I mean they probably thought they were far enough away but there's really no way for me to expect that an infected will be killed by my C4.

    I hope you agree and can make these changes, I think they will solve some of the trolling problems since the real culprits will be eventually karma banned if they don't change their ways!

    If so please restore my karma back to 2000 so I can start playing Hidden Infected again. Also please restore ZombieGirl, she has the same problem!

    Thanks again for the fun mod!

    Skaank

    P.S. Also please take the barrels out or make them explode for everybody because some survivors are still using them to demonstrate they're not the hidden infected... I also hear somebody trying to get people to double tap their walk button but that's not as obvious as the barrels.
     
  10. tank

    tank MG Donor

    I think Honor fixed , now if somebody shoot u first you dont lose karma if u kill him.

    I like when u play Infected.
    Skaank(infected): The guy was rushing on me with pills so i kill hem.
     
  11. Valandil

    Valandil Member

    dat fucking guy with pills :trollface:
     
  12. Ampelius

    Ampelius MG Donor

    I feel that there should be more emphasis on the calling out of KOS. People should learn the difference between assuming and confirming. Survivors should only shout out KOS if they have concrete evidence (spawning into hunter, dropping C4, breaking barricades) of someone being the HI. Someone with a throwable, someone with a knife, someone that was near to a corpse is no where near a solid proof. Suspicion is as far as you can go. Seriously I absolutely hate survivors who blindly assume and shout out KOS causing his/her teammates to lose karma. Also I always see and hear players saying something like this, "[Name] is infected, KOS... I think." KOS is FINAL and you shouldn't be hesitating.
     
  13. Valandil

    Valandil Member

    yes, i agree.. calling kos shouldn't be an easy decision to make.. like seeing survi with knife, awp, throwables and/or spotting someone near a corpse, sometimes it's just a survivor picking that item after being dropped by HI, or just plainly at the wrong time at the wrong spot.... but this is altogether a difficult topic.. i myself if see a survi after someone is recently died, i started a sus [survi] dialogue, and proceed to stalk him.. often the named survi attacked me and i retaliated.. but often too, when i was typing the sus [sur] he immediately attacked me, and not long i'm dead, so at that moment, typing kos [dat effin guy] probably was a better choice?
    there's one time i saw a molo being thrown, and i immediately saw to the point of origin of the thrown molo.. then i immediately start shooting at the survi in the immediate vicinity of the general direcion of the thrown molo.. but found out that i'm mistaken and got my karma reduced :p

    it's is frustating also, when you didn't have solid proof, like when you travel on a bush or a corner, or behind some obstacle after a person passes that spot, and you found a c4.. i's dilemma whether you should call kos or sus.. as you didn't actually saw the person that you saw passes that spot dropping the c4.. for me personally i often shouted sus.. but in the end after the round ends, i found out that my suspicion was right.. dat person is a HI.. maybe if i shouted kos at that time, maybe the result would be completely different.. :p

    but oh well.. IMO it's excactly this "dilemma" problem that's making this mod very addicting game.. actually i quite enjoyed being a survivor, it's quite intense, dodging bullets, stopping to try and hear c4 ticking, hunting when hearing hunter scratching, pursuing when som1 shouted kos, constantly shoving when a person go too near to you etc.. i just found it baffling when someone says that they hates it when they're assigned to be a survi :D
     
  14. Cocaine

    Cocaine Head Administrator

    Questions :

    1. What is that green Pole ?
    2. When i see a Player have a Molo or Pipe in the inv, is he 100% inf ?
     
  15. tank

    tank MG Donor

    1.Green pole or Green pillar is indication and will appear every 30 sec showing or pointing the person whos the killer (will se green pillar above player,vey useful on dark maps), is detective tool and work when u do scan on dead body, or in case u bought c4 defuser then can u scan c4 (se who dropped c4) 2) Player must have pipe in hand to could kill on sight, or even Survivor can have molo Attached on the belt.Survivor cant have molo in hand.
     
  16. Cocaine

    Cocaine Head Administrator

    What "killer", i saw the pole close to someone who has done definitely nothing.
     
  17. Jost

    Jost Game Server Moderator

    i think there is a problem with the pole sometimes... if the killer is already dead, the pole will follow his spectate-position sometimes...
    i had a situation in one game, where the pole was floating...

    can someone confirm that?

    that would explain some wrong KOS decisions too... xD
     
  18. tank

    tank MG Donor

    Scan only last confirmed body, dont scan infected bodys, sometimes hunter killled survivor, u killed hunter right after, no need the scan survivor or inf. In some cases to survivor kill survivor so green pilar will be above him, or sometimes killer was there and moved fast forward so pillar pointing where he was standing.Wait for pillar atleast twice before decide whos killer.
    In my worst case happened that pillar was standing over guy three times so i killed him and on the end he was survivor :( (COS HE SHOOT SURV)
     
  19. Tricky

    Tricky MG Donor

    The pole will show you the position of the killer of the body that was scanned, whether they are infected or human. As it updates once every 30 seconds, it is NOT exact. When you see it appear, run there, note who's around the area, then wait for the refresh. Do the same again and eventually you'll see who is around the pole ALL the time.
     
  20. Cocaine

    Cocaine Head Administrator

    Lol, the Point is i killed someone who killed a survivor...but he was also a survivor...shame on us both XD :D

    Thx for explaining guys!