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RPG server suggestions, bugs etc

Discussion in '[L4D2] Points Reloaded' started by marvel, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    I think it's a good idea to make a general topic on the RPG server how to further improve it. Imho there are still some loose ends that need to be fixed.

    First of all, it seems like that the die-hard regulars love the server, while the casual player loses his patience pretty fast and rather go play vicious. I don't say that's bad but this means the server is mostly at 9/10 players which will spawn a lot of stupid bots. The server is awesome when it's fully loaded but it gets annoying with all these stupid bots especially when people rage to infected and u get 2 vs 8 like I had today. These bots never revive human players, they just walk by you and leave you for dead.

    We need to figure something out to make that gap smaller and make it more interesting for new players as well. I could already see that leveling up goes much faster now which I think is a good start. Another improvement could be to make the basic needs cheaper. Like for instance, I've been playing a lot of hours now and I still can't buy incapped crawling since u need level 15 for this. Let me know if I can help tweaking this.

    Another issue is the language. You need to know english to play on this server. Perhaps we can do something with translations? Make a russian, french, spanish, polish etc version of the plugin. We have enough admins and players that know foreign languages so that should be easy although I wouldn't know if it's a lot of work to use translation files. It probably needs a rebuild of the plugin.

    Then a bug I ran in to. I bought heal for 20 points, suddenly my M16 got 1050 bullets left while my clip had only 10. When I shot those 10 rounds the gun became unusable, as if the game said I had no spare ammo left. When I did try a reload I got a lot of graphical glitches.

    That's my input so far. I still think this is the best mod we've had so far and with a little more tweaking it can be great :)
     
  2. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    I think the points and EXP earning is still too slow. It takes ages to earn the points to buy a single upgrade, like faster healing.
     
  3. joerve

    joerve Senior Member

    Yeah, and then you have players with a gazillion points but they cant buy stuff cuz theyre not levelled op.

    Also the buffers are way to expensive like the boom and run, if you dont have that the other team just cassualy walks to the other saferoom without any problems.

    Also if you are spitter and you are killed while still people stuck in your spit the xp earning stops.

    Also it might be a good idea like in other games like BC2 things you cant buy are hidden. Its annoying to constantly go through the menu to find out you cant buy it. It annoys the hell outta me ;) I nearly smashed my keyboard again
     
  4. LEGEND

    LEGEND Senior Member

    I think that the RPG system is all about levelling up not about the game. In that sense it is positively unique.

    For that reason I think we should allow saferoom closet rescuing in versus mode :D. Or maybe allow more humans to infected, that way people that have a low XP, can get it!! This simultaneously solves the problem of "OMG IM GOING INFECTED TO GET MORE XP" and team switching. 12vs10 sounds cool :D
     
  5. Wolf O'Donnell

    Wolf O'Donnell Senior Member

    The main one for me is that i think it would be a good idea to have a longer period of time at the start of each map to sort out any buffs/skills/points etc, as there were many times I was just happily standing sorting out my shizz and my team nearly gets wiped at the beginning. A short time would allow for proper preparation. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a reminder or something that tells the player they have recieved 'Full Luck' to use on the casino, as I think many pick up toasters and do one before they get smoked / chargers etc, they might not realise they have it and it may get wasted going into the next map. (pasted from t'other thread)
     
  6. L1teHawk

    L1teHawk Senior Member

    I agree with you. At the moment (11 PM GMT-6), Points Reloaded USA is 20/20 while the others aren't as full. People in it are newbies and noobs and they run out while you're sorting things out in CP. What can you say? So I run and work on the CP at the same time :)
     
  7. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    Yes I like that idea of locking the door for 15 seconds. HC had that same idea before if I remember.

    Another thing is that I think we should make points non-steam as well. Being steam only it's hard to compete with the other full servers. I mean players look for full servers first, not the mod that's running.
     
  8. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    Well I made it non-steam and it has been 20/20 for the last couple of hours now :D
     
  9. HonorCode

    HonorCode Head Administrator Staff Member

    Alright, i will try to block the saferoom door. However, is not an easy task so i gotta think alot xD
     
  10. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    Yah I know, there were plugins before that did it but they were always buggy. Sometimes safe wouldnt open at all and everybody was stuck so it's probably hard to make it :)
     
  11. davzee

    davzee <img src="http://mgftw.com/webdesigner.png" />

    first time playing this mod today and i gotta say i LOVE it....well done honor and anybody else who contributed! I think its a good thing that it takes quite a while to level up btw...it drives you to play more, i was glued to my screen for a good 3 hours or so today just trying to level up haha

    Only a couple of bugs ive seen so far, the most obvious being team scramble doesnt work at all...you cant vote or force it which i think can be a major problem on this particular server since its based around leveling up and if you've got all the regulars on one side with their higher levels...its pretty much a massacre...went through 3 campaigns earlier and on each one there was a 1000+ point difference in the scores...kinda irritating

    And the other, not sure if it was a one off or what but i was is spawn mode as a hunter and all of a sudden it was as if i had charged someone (a bot in this case) while still in respawn mode....the bot wasnt losing any health but i was pounding him for a good 3 or 4 minutes (as a hunter IN RESPAWN MODE lol) and every time i pressed that key to catch up with the survivors if u fall behind we teleported to a different location...was kinda funny.
     
  12. L1teHawk

    L1teHawk Senior Member

    You mean this one? http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=126030&page=2

    On the second page he released another update which does exactly the countdown thing instead of having all the survivors gather. Just survs won't be able to open door until countdown is done. The first one was glitchy where the door wouldn't open and all, but the second one looks OK based on comments.
     
  13. PepsiDay

    PepsiDay Guest

    I had it, just used self revive and everything was alright :)

    Another bug:
    -Only 127 ammo in M60 (normally 150)
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  14. UncleBens

    UncleBens Guest

    The idea of this server is just AAWEESOOMMEE but as you said everyone is focusing on "leveling up" and everyone try to level up so their "character" can be as strong as the survivors and infected in the Vicious servers....And to get this i think you need to be at least level 35. That's my opinion but I find it difficult to have XP ex : if i kill someone with a hunter i get what ? 200 XP ? for the level 1 peoples that's ok... but after the level 5 it's getting harder and harder to have XP and beside that we can loose XP....getting really hard to level up.

    About the Casino....Feeling lucky ? Yes. Feeling winner ? No. First time i played on the RPG server the !cp thing i found it really complicated and all what i wanted to upgrade was like level 5+, 10+, 35+. And because the first time we play this server we have 600 free points i waisted ALL my points at the casino...and didn't won anything. I though "ho when i will level up i will get 600 points again" ans that's not the case. Points are hard to get to... maybe we should get instantly 50 or more points when we level up ?
     
  15. PepsiDay

    PepsiDay Guest

    Mayby something like 'buy 10 tickets'?
    Anyway, i still think somethings wrong with droping toasters. Mayby after 3 killed smokers with headshot u wll recive bonus/smoker will drop light green toaster.
    Another idea is to getting points for achivements, for example, Brilliant (3 inf / 5 sec), will give you 50 points, but Asthma Free will give less, because it's much easier (2 points). Can be earned so many times
     
  16. HonorCode

    HonorCode Head Administrator Staff Member

    We are planning to add more ways to earn exp, just hold on there :)
     
  17. PepsiDay

    PepsiDay Guest

    Secret items:
    5-7 spots on map, and 1 randomly set item, u have to use pipe to throw it from there

    More buffs, will think about it
    Got one :) My boys from gang: there's little chance to spawn horde around u (u 're hunter) when u pounce survivor

    Another bug:
    Sometimes i'm loosing tank! I'm not loosing control, propably some1 else is buying tank, and new is spawning, but previous disapear
     
  18. joerve

    joerve Senior Member

    When you buy vomit everybody for 20 bounty and there are 10 players alive, you immediately get 10 bounty back for vommiting lol. I dont know if thats the intention lol
     
  19. LEGEND

    LEGEND Senior Member

    That gave me an idea. Why don't we add the option to get more control time with tank? What about throw special infected with tank for level 40+? What about spitter double spit option? What about charge incapped players option? Similarly, for survivors, add the option for better accuracy when incapped (easy cvar for this).

    How about global events for infected like turn off survivor glow for ten seconds - so that the survivors cant see each other apart from each others footsteps (easy cvar sv_showfootsteps) - but the infected can.

    I love the infected noise limiter. What I want to see is the ability to buy Bullet Time! So when anyone buys it, the server goes into slow-motion (like karma charge).
    That is all.
     
  20. davzee

    davzee <img src="http://mgftw.com/webdesigner.png" />

    I like every idea you've put forward here...except the option to buy bullet time...its pretty useless, its just there for the fun factor....and sometimes when 3 or 4 people get karma'd after one another it gets a little irritating, not sayin i dont like it but if people were given the option to buy it...it could possibly get a little out of hand....either that or no1 would waste their points on it and it would rarely be used at all.