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What Happened To Custom COOP/VS?

Discussion in 'Server Questions / Issues' started by Chocobo, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. Chocobo

    Chocobo <span style="color:#66CD00">Moderator</span>

    As the title said, I remember we all downloaded like 4 maps for COOP and VS for the custom maps. I really liked both of those servers as they added something new. I have talked to others who feel the same way and want to know if the custom servers could come back to do those campaigns again?

    Thanks,
    Chocobo
     
  2. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    i fully agree choco. its nice to play on other maps than all time the same maps. and what about a map toplist? for example : there a 5 custom maps for a week, next week there are 5 new,etc. every player which played on the server can give 3 votes to maps and after a month there is toplist where the topmaps are all time in maplist or just 1 week only the topmaps?
    there are so many awesome custom maps guys, give it a try
     
  3. Yeah I have to agree, I really liked the custom maps, certainly the longer maps. The only issue was that a few of them were a little buggy. Bring back the custom COOP servers :D
     
  4. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    yeah i think custom coop would be more populate than versus. and we got 2 unused server at list^^
    anyone know why it was removed? was the map change bug fixed?
     
  5. Raised in Hell

    Raised in Hell Senior Member

    Those custom maps had a big issue which has been the case on MG for the past week or so, farming. The custom map servers were never full so few people would go on them and farm. They were pretty much like HK and AUS servers where less people played and the people who played, played there to farm ..
     
  6. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    yeah but i think all know now what happen if they farm. and i think farmers prefer empty extreme servers. and when they farm they can farm anywhere. no reason to take a pass on custom maps for all other players only cuz ppl could farm there. dont let the damn farmers take us the fun of custom maps
     
  7. Raised in Hell

    Raised in Hell Senior Member

    Farmers just look for empty servers to spam molotovs. Me and Legend saw the prime example of this. There was a guy (can't remember his name), he was playing on EU Extreme server but when me and Legend joined the server, he left the server and joined Aus Coop server to farm there. He was the only person on that server and Legend followed him and told him to get off from that server because he was farming there too so to back my point up, they just want quick exp, points whether its from COOP or Extreme.
     
  8. I think no matter what you do there will always be ppl who look for empty servers to farm, I think the only thing you guys can do is be on the servers policing. Other than that it would be a case of checking stats for anything suspicious. I had an idea for how to make things easier thou: the servers monitor the number of points a player scores per hour then compares that to the average hourly score rate of the top 50/100 players. If it is noticeably higher then a message is sent to the admins to investigate. That way you can keep an eye out for farmers at all times and dont have to be on the servers. Just a thought don't know if its doable. I mean there was a guy i reported to legend that had sat in a safe room for 5 hours and notched up 45k points. Even on a good day with a half full server, plenty of special toasters and me doing all the scoring ill be lucky to get half that in that time.
     
  9. Raised in Hell

    Raised in Hell Senior Member

    I'm not sure if that will work because normally people get an average between 50-175 kills per round but there have been occasions where people even get 400 or more (obviously by molo spamming), so if an average was set at even 250 and then someone gets 400 kills by playing fine without farming, an admin may think that person is farming. I'm sure this can be coded but it would be more work and the only way i could see this to be useful if it reports straight away if some player gets more than 1000 kills so an admin can check on the hlstats to confirm if he's farming or not but even then hlstats can deceive you because some player might keep dying over and over again so his kill ratio keeps increasing everytime he has to play again.
     
  10. True, i've played on Extreme before and the top 4 killed 3.5k CI between them, however that sort of score is rare. But I think you could monitor the way ppl score when they are farming and there would be some tell tale signs that he was farming (eg high kill/death rate, high headshot ratio, higher score than they average). Okay it might not be perfect, there will probably be a few false positives, but at least its something. You guys seem to be struggling on the HK/AUS servers and I think if you partially automate the system it will hopefully let you get a handle of the situation.
     
  11. Raised in Hell

    Raised in Hell Senior Member

    When someone farms, he usually has high K:D ratio, where he could have 1500 kills with 0 or few deaths and when someone is farming, they will NEVER have a high head shot ratio because they normally spam molos so their headshot ratio is very low. The HK/Aus servers are a problem because we don't have many admins for those servers unlike EU/US but we still look out on the stats and there has been cases where people got banned by the admins where they found ridiculous stats on hlstats so we try our best to stop farmers but it's not always easy.
     
  12. I know its not easy, its like parenting 30k small children, not an easy task. There must be signs indicative of farming thou, that the server can pick up on, maybe number of mollys thrown, time spent in one location etc. It would make managing the HK/AUS servers easier. I mean I think if you're reduced to having an admin on the servers at all times there would just be too many admins to provide 24/7 cover. I mean even with the 30 or so EU admins there arent always admins on the servers.
     
  13. Chocobo

    Chocobo <span style="color:#66CD00">Moderator</span>

    Why does every thread end up talking about farmers?

    Let's get back to the main point.

    I was actually hoping to get a root to answer this...
     
  14. marvel

    marvel Head Administrator Staff Member

    Sorry guys, I really lack energy now to do anything on MG. I'm busy with work and other stuff. It's a common problem, I always have a period like that about 2 times a year where I can't make myself do anything new for 4/5 weeks except keep everything running :)

    Also with the summer vacations and stuff going on here and the nice weather I rather look at girls in short dresses instead of zombies ;)

    I think it happens to us all at some point, but in my case I will be on fire again within a couple of weeks :)
     
  15. ?????

    ????? Guest

    I onced killed 1k zombies on the parish, and trust me it was far from farming (still made it to the saferoom :D!)