thoughts on new PR buffs

Some of these I'm thrilled with, others not so much <.<

Projectile incinerator: I really hate this one >.< I'd rather just have the regeneration buffs working properly and ditch this. With good teamwork you don't really need this much, esp if regen worked. There should always be a boomer ready to put out a tank, and the bile is more of an inconvenience than dangerous to a high enough level tank. It kind of takes the effort of communicating and strategy out of the picture.

Saferoom mayhem. Glad to be able to get the tanks in the saferoom again

Rusher massacre? I don't know if that applies to 'mains'. I'd hope it wouldn't, mains should be allowed to rush in SOME instances, esp if they're a higher level, and the rest of the team is lower level (I'm talking lvls ten and under) and getting creamed in the back.

Bounty thief. Not sure how this works, haven't encountered it yet (that I know of), but I'm thinking it kind of sucks . The very idea of it makes me want to spend my bounty as fast as I can every time I earn some.

Boomer trap: OMFG I LOVE THIS ONE! It's a lot of fun to see how much damage I can do with one trap, and it makes people think about their strategy when they leave the saferoom. I love this no matter which side I'm on

 

I hate Bounty Thief, pretty much makes you lose.

Boomer trap, hated it until I got it makes the game fairer if it goes through moustachio

 

I will not call that bad buffs
Things are just fine now with new buffs and give infected chance to win to, like i see last days alone rusher die fast, and thats good:
POISON
Works with tanks and its cool that work people complaining but if u poisoned eat pills fast like in co/op and you will be fine, second its a survivor buff called "Special First Aid" you can heal entire poisoned team and yourself in as sec.
Only thing that tank limit should be reduced to (3-4) not like today ,on old l4d maps spawn 7 tanks, 5 regular and 2 from console is too much.

BOOMER TRAP to,
its only one trap x boomer, and now boomer make noise and take so long to reload vomit,very easy to kill him,before going out from saferoom trow molotov its helps sometimes.

BOUNTY THiEF
What can i said about,pain in the ass sometimes, but thats the point of the game ,the name tells evrithing :], very cool buff.

 

You free the buy same buff and use it to :]

 

lol man, what you want that tanks whispering you when you down, the point is as i told you sometimes is seven 40000HP tanks so you will die anyway poisoned or not, i told you even poisoned and incap you can still revive your team mate with pills, question is how fast u buyiing your stuff (med kit,pilss,bombs..., you can buy antipoison from buy menu also)


I promise you the biggest problem on MG VS servers are that many guys who are incap in front of you continues crawling,dont wait 4 you and don't give you a chance to heal them up, why they do idk,i died many time as survivor trying to pick up guy on front and he just continue to crlw and die.???


On some maps mustachio is to abused and easy give big chance to survivor team, for me right now is more problem lvl1 spitter glue 100% then boomer trap, you get hit by the trap ,heal again and go.
But lv1spit you cant move for a long time,CI hitin' you + you are easy target for SI.
Also remember its not many buff slots and its lot of good buffs, the guy with bounty hunter doesnt make him winner.
Your choice what buff is best,personaly i don't have place for bounty thief 'cos choose other good buffs for my inf.

 

Boomer trap I can't even place near the survivors, I have to go halfway across the map before it deploys it because of "You are too close to the survivors" which defeats the point of a boomer trap. Also the survivor trap is so op its unbelievable kill all the tanks easily.....

 

With the new projectile incinerator buff and slash resistance upgrade... how are we supposed to kill tanks?

I thought vet pistols were a great way, but it seems they no longer hurt the tanks.

I see 5 tanks every map and none die. How do we fight them?

 

Make tank limit3.
5 high 40000hp tank no point.tank is strong enough.reduce tanks.5+2 from console is too much.

 

with the recent changes to some buffs, it made them completely useless. Now i'm all for tweaks, slight changes but to completely nerf something, making it unusable and useless, totally overkill. Lets not forget by making these changes you made everyone waste their own gems/points in the process.

lets start with some buffs people listed above;

1. boomer trap, only problem I saw Boomer trap shouldn't go through Moustachio. That's it, really. Its fun little buff, and it made being boomer worth playing more aside from only being useful for bitch slap. As of right now, its useless buff, cannot place it anywhere on the map, always says "within range.." This reminds me of when buying witches, can't buy them within range of surv. (meh)
2.posion buff, this was problematic buff. I've enjoyed using this, but I did notice how easily it was to posion players. It used to be 20 seconds, so reduce it down to 10 or so. But don't reduce the poison chance, that was just an overkill on the buff.
3.bounty theft, just make it usable 2-3 per round, i believe erik said that ingame before.

spawn placement is still an issue, and low level spitters with 100% spit is another problem. Need to focus on fixing the problems we have before adding new things which just start to pile up with more problems. And if nerfing is needed, we need slight adjustments not an overkill.

 

The low level spit issue is actually a bug... low level spit should NOT hold you down like super glue, which it currently does.

 

Bring back old pr tank config.(3 tanks,15k hp,buy heal etc) but with more dmg from guns...5 tanks are overkill and boring without heal .Also miss old spawning system where you can place tank and witches anywhere you want .:whistle:

 

Most of the new buffs are pretty useful/good reading its info.

However I can't use most of them since there's so many new along with the old buffs but so little buff slots.

 

But even if is 3 tank with 40K without healing is ok, HC fixed regeneration, so if you have double regen and max regen is 250HP from CP, you regenerate 500HP in second which is enough to fight survivors + if you have poison buff should work fine.
6-7 tanks make lag,losing control.
Para and Shaman is very killable ,no regen, good rewards for killing Shaman.
Even today tank is easy to kill with magnum and vetearan pistols, and last days with survivor trap,don't use melee on high lvl tank, just shoot, i see many trying to cut me as tank with sword in elevator and saferoom.
Tank is easy get on fire, so on fire no regen, tank its easy target.

IMPORTANT BUGS:
There are last map on Dead Center (atrium) where if you buy tank before start elevator server crash.
Last map on No Mercy (Rooftop) when you play as second round as infected server crash.

 

Need to choose what is most usefull buffs for u, i personally use only extingisher bile from the old infected buffs,
for survivor use basic(crawling,adrenaline run,knife) and choose some new.