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Retard bots

Discussion in '[L4D2] Points Reloaded' started by Vulcan, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Vulcan

    Vulcan Game Server Moderator

    Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in bot stupidity lately. The Hood mentioned a few weeks ago that there always seemed to be one bot stuck in the back but at the time I thought it was normal. Now after seeing it several times I do not think it is normal. It is AFU. It always happens at a crucial time like when players are trying to get past an activation point and there is that one stinking bot way back there who is stuck and will not move so the other bots go back to get him. It really sucks. Is it a Valve thing or MG?
     
  2. Nova

    Nova Senior Member

    I think the bot(s) are waiting... when I played on VI chicago alone half the bots were with me in the saferoom and the other half outside and i didnt know why til 2 mins later a tank appeared. it looked like one was stuck and the others were covering him.
     
  3. LEGEND

    LEGEND Senior Member

    Valve aren't meant to support 20 player servers. If a bot is stuck it usually indicates that the max flow (the distance between the first and last survivor) has been increased for a duration. On Finale's the max flow is increased for a time which is why the bots spread out. Conversely, the max flow can be shortened so they stick together - one example of this is the Parish finale.

    I've seen this on L4D1 too. The bot isn't intentionally being retarded it's just that the bot is at the edge of the flow distance. The other bots then go to assist this bot because they are within the flow distance. If they are far enough away they don't bother. The best thing you can do is wait for them to resolve or tell the whole group (or more specifically, the first player) to move back. Once the bot is within the flow distance again it will go on its merry way. This usually does not happen on PR servers due to the players being dramatically spaced out. Bots will therefore always catch up. Servers such as VI require a little bit more integrity and this usually forms a single unit so the flow distance is more prominent.

    I'm pretty sure this is valid info, otherwise I have no other explanation :P
     
  4. The Hood

    The Hood MG Donor

    I've seen two bots stuck and non-responsive recently. Even when I went back to them they were just standing there, would not move forward. Frequently see one bot way behind the group, not moving. Sometimes the whole group is in the saferoom and the one bot will be way behind not moving, which then causes the other bots to go back for him normally, but now, sometimes, the other bots will even ignore the one bot. But the round wont end until the one in back dies. In my years of playing this game this is not normal behaivior for bots...
     
  5. The Real Youngblood

    The Real Youngblood Game Server Moderator

    Bots are only good for healing and auto-aiming.
     
  6. Zsoka

    Zsoka Senior Member

    I love it when bots teleport to you and then watch you die.
    Or if you save a bot and then he teleports away leaving you to your death.
     
  7. The Real Youngblood

    The Real Youngblood Game Server Moderator

    lol...yeah it's great when you are smoking someone and all the bots come back just to stand around him as if saying "You mad bro?". Then they move forward without him.
     
  8. HighVolt@ge

    HighVolt@ge Senior Member

    there are some plugins our there that might help with these kind of situations. Altho adding yet ANOTHER plugin could be a trainwreck and I understand that... I think it would be worth it to try. Some of the bot fixes released look promising.