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no gems from mutated tanks anymore?

Discussion in '[L4D2] Points Reloaded' started by bloodhand, May 13, 2011.

  1. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    how i must see today is the %chance of getting a gem when a mutated tank dies disabled. so is there only chance of a gem to craft them or wait till a 100+ player drop, right?
    why u disabled tank gem funktion? why u not just lower the chance that everyone alive get a gem? before it was 100% survivor alive = 100% chance of gem? why not make it 100% survivor alive = 75% chance, 50%survivor alive= 25%chance gem, etc
    it would be fairer than when tank die just drop 1 gem toaster.. then we have the problem that all run to tank drop all let other die..
    just my mind ;)
     
  2. i think the probability should be 50% to 50%
     
  3. Collector

    Collector <img src="http://mgftw.com/leadweb.png" />

    i did get a gem from Tank after it died a fewtimes today. maybe i got lucky. or this rule hasn't yet been applied to the PR Coop server?
     
  4. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    can admin pls tell what changed now and how it works with gems now?
     
  5. HonorCode

    HonorCode Head Administrator Staff Member

    First, it checks for a random probability based on the current survivors alive, then it runs another probabilty to get a gem per player. So basically:

    If 16/16 ot the survivors make it, there is a 100% chance that a "roulette" runs. However, this doesnt mean that you will instantly win a Gem, because there is a 5% probability of winning it.

    It probably isnt clear enough but:

    %Survivors Alive = Probability. If the random event is true, there is a 5% probability of winning a player PER person. So, player A could get a gem or not.
     
  6. KiLl3rAs

    KiLl3rAs MG Donor

    In the last major upgrade (lvl 100 > 200) the tank in coop drop 3 gems 1 legendary items and multi toast
    After the legendary his disabled...
    After the gems toast his disabled to
    After you add a system for a random gems with % alive
    After you edited the %

    Next step dellet the multitoast?
     
  7. Wanted

    Wanted MG Donor

    I think the chances of wining craft should be increased after using 60 k points 0 gems ,,,,so i and many other players stop playing craft as it not worth for 100 + lvl players (except if u get luck toaster which is even harder to get).I start playing coop as many other high lvl players to get gems but now bec of this new upgrade less ppl play coop(high lvl mostly) and u cant accept to to kill mutant tanks with 16/16 survivors to make it with some bots and new players,Now is there any way of getting gems??i think u should work on craft probability.I like craft when it was launched with 250 points cost and % chances which i dont know and win 25 gems after using 50-60k points,
     
  8. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    its really hard to get a gem from tank with the roulette thing honor.. i killed on coop with team ca 20 tanks and got no gem. while that some1 of my team got 4 gem. and with crafting is wanted right..
    now u must kill 100 tanks or waste 100k points on craft to get maybe a gem..
     
  9. i agree with blood, its too hard =\

    like... even if we have 100% players alive, we got only 5% of chances to get it... so if it is 50%, it would be 2.5%...



    this way we wont get gems =\
     
  10. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    yeah honor pls overthink it again :)
    my suggest is that u make it that everyone alive get a gem, by 100% surv alive = 75% chance of gem ( or lower maybe 50%)
    or change the crafting chance or price
     
  11. SKINHEAD

    SKINHEAD MG Donor

    Imo it should just be raised to 10% no more, as the gems skills/upgrades/buffs should not be something you get to easily, you can see on supreme i nearly maxed everything making the half dollar per gem to expansive for a gem, but if its hard to get a gem its worth a half dollar for it.
     
  12. HonorCode

    HonorCode Head Administrator Staff Member

    We are not going to change the probability on tanks. However, we might do events in the future where players would obtain gems easily.
     
  13. BunkerKiller

    BunkerKiller Guest

    Crew dont think thats offensive for you but this sucks
    we have get one gem from the tank when we have killed him in the old system
    when we wanna buy something like mind controll rock we need to kill 65 tanks
    and there are more gems upgrades who need 40 gems, we must kill the tank maybe 500 time to max everything
    but now we must kill 1000 tanks for 10 gems, and sry for say that but this SUCKS
    when tanks die all are jumping on his toasters like kamikaze bombers, also when i have maked the most damage to the tank i will get nothing...
    i have read your problem with the roulette but make that off and give 100% chance to all living survivors to get gem
    thats hard enough and will take at daily play more than 2 months to max all
    when you need to do something with a roulette than make that with legendary toasters or happy hour

    thx for read and sry for bad english

    Greetz BunkerKiller

    P.S.: this is not offending
     
  14. Wanted

    Wanted MG Donor

    U r saying this because u have all special skills and special buffs about 1-2 month ago with supreme.
     
  15. bloodhand

    bloodhand MG Donor

    yep and u play only on versus skin, so u dont mind. but cant u change it so long till u finished the new gem challenges honor?
     
  16. Wanted

    Wanted MG Donor

    atleast can u increase the chances in craft bec 1% is too low...after using 60k all fail not even 1 gem..
     
  17. HonorCode

    HonorCode Head Administrator Staff Member

    Probability per survivors was increased to 20%.

    Craft Probabilities changed:

    Lv. 1-30 = 20% prob.
    Lv. 31-100 = 8% prob.
    Lv. 100-200 = 5% prob.
     
  18. SKINHEAD

    SKINHEAD MG Donor

    Awesome dont make it higher as it would make gems buying from website less worth it
     
  19. SKINHEAD

    SKINHEAD MG Donor

    True i maxed almost everything but that was because of supreme, tank has a little to do with it

    EDIT: sorry for double posting
     
  20. Roar

    Roar MG Donor

    From what i SAW in the updates thread. if 50% people survives, 50% chance that everyone gets a gem.

    i really like the idea, because it will MAKE people to want to help revive teammates and such to get their gem.