Hard Rain Trouble -Coop-

Heres the problem.


People have been getting mad trying to complete the final in hard rain.
They say the map is very hard to finsh.I even try to do this with a
good level people and it didn't work as well.You can try the map out
and feel like the other people feels.It just the map is not impossible but
it would take alot of beating.It not a problem in Verus but in Coop it is.

[Reasons]
-water slowing them down (except for speedy water buff)
-Lack of visibility(Hiding SInfected)
-tight places
-tank specials(Drainer are the Wrose)
-Difficulty(Still hard in easy)
-Lack of Items
-harder ways to escape
-Tank speed on water(Game itself)
Tanks are mostly the problem in this final.

This final need to have Smart people with good levels,Great
teamwork,and some strategy.I don't like that...

I don't want people to suffer from this Final in Hard Rain.

I will ask this question for everyone:
Will this final ever get modified or the campign will be removed in Coop?

Thank you for taking ur time reading this.

 

Everyone hates Hard Rain. Especially in COOP, it's difficult because of the witches. Some maps are simply harder than others, though, and that's part of the game. It's not my intent to invalidate what you're saying here, as I've played this map in COOP hundreds of times. Because of the pull speed/range of Smokers, Sticky Goo buff that the Spitters have equipped, and special tanks, it's especially hard. Check out the Survivor Buff list, buy essentials like Speedy Water, and communicate with your team. It normally only takes, at worst, a few tries to get through the map.

Any donor can call a votemap any time they want in-game. It doesn't have to be the first map of the campaign. There's almost always a donor in each game. If not, consider becoming one if you want to bypass hard rain. It's cheap and most people who have those accounts can't live without them. We also have a sale going on in the Store...

 

I don't really like the Hard Rain campaign as it's a REP destroyer but, when I do play the campaign (besides my REP going down) I don't really see or have any problems at all when I was a low LV or even a high LV. When I was a low LV I just try to rush my ass as quickly as possible spraying and praying with the M60 all the way in into the SR. I also just camp my ass in corner of the restaurants in the final as I can't do much as a low LV besides aim and shoot.

OH and BTW
You know you can type from
left to right instead of a little right
then pressing enter and typing some more.
That or you got some 3-5 in. screen lol...
But HEY it's my opinion you can do whatever the hell you want and welcome to the forums!:yo:

 

Hard Rain isn't so bad. I like it. The only time it gets horrible is when we get a metalized tank during the finale.

I don't understand the witch troubles... just be aware of your surroundings. Don't shoot wildly into the horizon, especially if you know that witches patrol at random throughout most of the level. Just... common sense. If you don't trust yourself not to shoot wildly, switch to a melee weapon for those parts lol.

There are many alternative routes you can take to avoid sloshing through the water if you don't have the speed buff, such as the pipes and rooftops.

The storms go away so fast. I think boomer vomit lasts longer than them. I don't understand all the belly aching!

 

I've never had a problem with the Hard Rain Finale. It's the stupid amount of witches that leads to the Hard Rain Finale that pisses me off...

also...metalized tanks..horrible for bad rep users.. I wish we could give away bounty to other users so we don't waste it..

 

zomg you can't ask MG to remove one campaign, is just ridiculous man. Regarding your reasons I agree that some of those factors can make the maps a little bit harder, and yes, teamwork is necessary here, but thats a good thing because you will learn and get used to play like that (instead of rushing like people do in Cold Stream finale for example), even if it takes you 10 attempts to complete the campaign, it will worth it.

Drainers are a pain in the ass in every map, not just in that one lol

And like Erik said, any donor can call a vote if you get stuck and can't complete the finale, but you wont get better by skipping the hard maps.

As I understand you lose the !Buy command only at the worst level of the rep system (Team Demon), if it is like this it cant be that hard to raise that rep back one level, just carry a defib and leave the witches alone (checking 3985385835 times a day the !rep command wont help you raise the rep )

I know I should not be making comments about coop, but guys, take some time to read what you're saying here, you are whining because coop force to play with "teamwork" and because of a rep issue that can be fixed by dfibing 20 players :S

 

You lose the !buy command at Team Destroyer. You lose access to all the Market (Upgrades / Buffs / Skills) at Team Demon. Getting a hold of a defib is a lot harder than you think when you're locked out of !buy. You basically have to hope someone decides to abandon theirs (which NEVER happens, especially since they've turned off spawn closets. Everyone's after their delicious bounty, no one gives a damn about your rep). Unconfirmed, but it takes waaaaaaay more than 20 defibs to climb a title. His rep frustration is understandable.

 

THANK YOU. Lol, thinking it's so easy getting your hands on a defib sometimes. But I was never complaining about the rep system at all, just said that metalized tanks is a b!tch to handle haha.

and you lose !buy at "TERRIBLE" not team destroyer.

That's Average>bad>terrible>team destroyer>team demon. I wish I lost !buy at team destroyer. Terrible is much more easier to maintain.

 

Don't forget the "easy rep boost" moments - example:

- waiting in the vehicle for the stragglers in campaigns like Blood Harvest or Crash Course... just HOLD DOWN YOUR "E" button until they're picked up, 1-by-1.

 

I've read that it takes 20 people to go from team demon to team destroyer (but keep in mind that in that time you may do some negative actions too and that's why it may take a little longer), acording to that data, rep development is not linear. There's another thread with the aproximated amount of people to defib, I can't remember where it was so I can't link that for you.

But you got a point there, It must be very hard when you can't buy the dfibs, now I remember I helped 2 guys in that situation two months ago, by dropping dfibs in the saferoom at the end of the round. I guess some guildmates or a high lvl friend may help that way too. I've readed that there's a buff to achieve a better status faster.

Still, this was a secondary discussion, I only joined this thread to post a response to M?ssíámgünwööt's post, so I'orry for the confussion. I didn't know that you lose the use of !buy at any status below terrible and not just at team demon.