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Donors screwing up their team

Discussion in '[L4D2] Points Reloaded' started by smokke1982, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    Well.. i do not know if i should say that...but the best way to explain what i mean is by example. lately, some donors have been acting like complete idiots and screwing up the whole team they are one. Example

    L?IzI??0
    http://mgftw.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=playerinfo&player=253341
    STEAM_0:0:28695354

    I was playing with him today on USA PR VS. All good and fine, since he was on the other team. What i did notice was:
    • He was tank once or twice and all he did was stay on a ladder and block it (dead air and one before that....)
    • When survivor he was the first to rush, way ahead of any one else, regardless if he was a main or not.
    Then the dreaded scramble came. He was on my team. God have mercy!!!

    As a survivor, he rushed like hell, non main most of the game, leaving everyone else behind. Couple of times he was out the safe-room before even everyone loaded or was ready.... Of course he died first, cause no one made it that far to help him. We couldn't kick him cause he was a donor.
    I was lucky enough to be able to switch teams once, before i left (I know it's not nice, but after being screwed up more than several times by that guy, couldn't take it anymore). I feel sorry for the rest of the players that couldn't switch to get away from him (on Dead air - last campaign there were about 3-4 that wanted to do the same way...sorry guys)

    As a SI he constantly went again st his team. Example, we were 3-4 ppl higher lvl than him, that could have put a spiter or a tank to better use but noo...we had to lose 2 rounds cause Luiz here had to have his way.

    My question here is
    "What can be done when we are stuck with players like Luiz-something" that does all he can to sabotage his team? players like him cannot be kicked, cause of donor status and cannot be team-killed cause of "Iron skin". All we can do is leave him behind or switch.

    P.S: i know that coming from me, this post seems odd, me being a donor and "So loved" (NOT!!) by most of the lower lvl players. I know i bash noobies , but i never done anything to screw up the team i am on.

     
  2. Popshotz

    Popshotz Guest

    Do you have any chat logs or screenshots? Without them there is no evidence.

    Hopefully a l4d2 root with look further into this for you.
     
  3. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    no, i did not take any. The people on it can vouch, Votekick, Tracer, Soulcatche2000, Archangel, Avilroad, cunner (cunner and i wereon the same team as luiz),Oceandriver, CoolestStoryBrah NoobDestroyer..etc

    they were there and saw what Luiz was doing...
     
  4. Chocobo

    Chocobo <span style="color:#66CD00">Moderator</span>

    What you can also do is fill out a ban request form.

    The third option is to take a demo and chat log of the event and post it on the forums, or give it to one of the admins to review it.

    I will be on a little later (In a few hours), if you are still having problems then mind showing me?
     
  5. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    unfortunately i am at work right now, for the next 8 hours. I took a look on the stats page, but did not see Luiz.. Next time i play with him i will demo it. All of it :))
     
  6. Nova

    Nova Senior Member

    The best option is to call for an admin that's online when it's happening.
    I agree with the rushing as a survivor, but not so much as the SI but that's my opinion.

    Next time, drag an admin in-game and they should be able to do the necessary, unless you play at times nobody is on and only trolls are in-game...
     
  7. smokke1982

    smokke1982 Banned

    Another example? Mr. Berry something....lost 2 rounds on dead air because the mighty lvl 58 berry man wanted a spitter.Bear in mind that his spiter upgrades were minimal and there were at least 3 more high lvl players that could have done better.But noooo...screw the team, I wanna be the high and mighty!!!! Could not do anything cause he's donor so we had to accept defeat...And you wonder why i get so annoyed!!!!
     
  8. Chocobo

    Chocobo <span style="color:#66CD00">Moderator</span>

    Okay, these are the only three things you can do (besides ignore it):
    1. Find an admin that is online and have them come in-game
    2. Fill out a ban request form
    3. Take a demo and chat log and send it to an admin.
    That is pretty much it mate. Do these three things and your problem should be taken care of without a doubt.
     
  9. Nova

    Nova Senior Member

    smokke, you can't just tell people what to do... this game is for everyone to play, and the PR servers accept every level. People may only like VS and not COOP, it shouldn't be a problem for them to play on the PR VS.
    If they want to be a spitter, then they can be a spitter. If it's a team-play game, then you gotta do stuff for the team too.

    If they suck as a spitter, the only way to improve is by playing the spitter more. Perfection comes with practice.

    If they suck as a spitter, then you gotta take an SI that can complement this lack of performance from the low level, and certainly not kick him because he just wants to play the game.

    When you were low level, there were level 100s that knew better than you did at that time too, and I'm sure you still took any SI you wanted and played how you felt was best for the team. Not everybody has as much team dedication as you do, and you gotta accept that.

    It's not your game, and it's not your rules, you've already been banned for 3 days before because of the amount of ban request joerve got against you, I really don't think you'd want that to happen again man. Relax a bit, it's just a game, there's no problem in losing or playing with others.

    If you really want a perfect game, you need to play a LAN with your best buddies next to you so everything goes according to a perfectly under control plan

    Lower levels don't take spitters because they want to be high and mighty dude, they just wanna play the game, heck if they're lower level, they probably don't even know how good a spitter can get and don't look around them to see that at high levels it's pretty OP.

    You're a good player and you gotta keep your cool. Guide the newbies instead of booting them off the server, if the game gets too frustrating, then take a break and come back later.