[PR] 1.7 is live!

Update to the post I did a few days ago

One of the strange things that I reported that day has now indeed turned out to be confirmed minor bug
Bug: Low HP Tank Bug
Classification: Minor Bug
Cause?: Having Vampire Buff on tank buff set, not having it on doesn't cause the bug.



end of bug post.

 

About Helm Deep ticket don't introduct them by honor points please , I know you try fill up a little versus with honor points( lke with new reward ), i didn't want play versus anymore on L4D2 , multiplayer versus game i play it when i was younger and didn't want play this kind of game now even dislike it like MMORPG now , i know you can understand mute you never really play on versus .

 

Found 2 map bugs and 1 map issue in VS, both of which require a map change when found but for similar reasons.

1st Bug: Invisible Roof at top of ladder
Classification: Moderate Bug
Can't find a cause to the bug right now.
What does it do?: When going up the ladders, and eventually getting to a point where you cannot proceed any further at the top of the ladder, that is because you are blocked by an invisible roof. You can get stuck there, be able to shoot, even while incapacitated but you will never be able to be teleported back to a nearby survivor who isn't stuck. You can let the infected kill you and go to the 2nd round, however it may also happen for them when the infected get their turn as a survivor. In which case it is pointless to waste time and should require a map change as a result.
Priority: Normal



2nd Bug: Stuck in middle of nowhere at finale start (Only some finales)
Classification: Moderate Bug
Don't know atm why this bug occurs only for certain campaigns (I have only seen it on Dead Center, Swamp Fever and Hard Rain)
What does it do?: At the beginning of the 1st round of the finale map where the bug occurs, instead of expecting the survivors to be inside the starting saferoom, they are instead found hiding elsewhere, and when pressing e as an infected to find them, you cannot get to their location since it is outside the map bounds. You will only notice where the survivors are by going into spec and finding them. This requires a map change as soon as possible since you cannot do the finale at all under any circumstances where the survivor is stuck out of bounds.
Priority: HIGH



Being stuck in Dead Center Finale on VS, 1st Round



Being stuck in Swamp Fever Finale on VS, 1st Round

1st Map Issue: Charged into out of bounds area in c1m2.
Cause?: Charger successfully charging me into an out of bounds area.
Location by screenshot?:



Where I ended up after being charged and released from pinning.

What couldn't stop me from going past?: 2 tall wire fences.

End of the bug and map issue post

So you know whats going on, there is an imbalance of teams on VS due to people joining, now this has been talked about in a recent forum post. However so you can see the proof behind it, I plan on taking screenshots of teams in VS (at start of each round, at 25%, 50%, 75% and end of round as applicable, or after 10 minutes have passed, whichever occurs first) from tonight (local time).

While I'm at it, question for you Mute, any changes to the way we can receive the Love Ticket from September 4th? (It's current method is by buying it for 100 honor points from honor market)

 

Nice news for those didn"t play on versus thanks mute

 

Found 2 bugs in Scenario, both are minor bugs, though the 2nd bug is definitely more annoying though because of the consequences of having it happen.

1st Bug: Other tanks randomly dying during Supreme Glutton Tank fight
Classification: Minor Bug
Cause?: Infected Devour ability probably, otherwise its hard to tell since SGT wasn't near some of the tanks at the time of their death.

NOTE: After the first Supreme Glutton Tank, i refer to him as SGT in all other sayings

Ever since Supreme Glutton Tank has appeared, there has always been only 1 reason as to why some tanks die immediately whenever they get near this tank. It is because in the scenario server if no one dealt any damage to the 2nd tank that spawns, it will soon randomly die near the Supreme Glutton Tank. There have also been cases of tanks that spawn invisible with their auras still intact and unable to do anything whatsoever, these tanks then also die soon afterwards.



2nd Bug: Supreme Infernal Tank occasional permanent kill bug
Classification: Minor Bug
Cause?: Can't tell since body seems to disappear on death at random on any death from SIT, whether it was caused by anything from a tentacle hit to a tank punch that dealt additional damage.

When you are killed by means of HP reaching 0 (either having 0 incaps left or having Tenacity Buff on) on either standing or incap health, sometimes your body will disappear at random, making it impossible for anyone to find it and defib you back from the dead.

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You may have probably already seen the second bug occur already.

adding in a 3rd bug for tonight, this one seems to have been an old recurring bug that might have been fixed in the past but has reappeared again. VS Bug btw

3rd Bug: Controller Charger goes slow after slamming into a wall
Classification?: Minor Bug
Cause?: Controller Charger slamming into a wall, doesn't occur when doing this as the other two classes.



EDIT: Found a 4th bug on VS, when both the survivors and infected have gone through the round of 4th chapter of hard rain, it seems to want to spawn us in the saferoom of chapter 4 on the finale or make us repeat chapter 4 again, bit hard to explain since I didn't go !afk to take a look around.

Don't have any evidence screenshots or video of this 4th bug right now so Hard Rain Campaign on VS will need to be looked at for tomorrow so we can know more about this bug. When I do get the evidence I will either update or post in a new post about it.



End of bug post.

 

Now became minecrafty time

 

In Versus, there is currently 1 powerful buff (not related to the VS buffs, only have the Assassin drone Buff right now) that is being used to completely wreck tanks in a matter of a few moments.

The Butcher Buff. In COOP it is absolutely fine. However in VS it deserves a nerf. (Correct me if im wrong on this)
This nerf can either be
Making it <Coop Only> (Probably the better option of the two)
or severely nerfing the overtime damage on tanks, the butcher buff is fine when used against special infected other than the tank in VS though.

The Butcher Buff, simply put it deals huge overtime damage ontop of the normal melee damage on normal tanks only, Special Infected other than the tank do not get affected by overtime damage as they don't take any.

NOTE that the melee damage in the screenshots was done using the machete melee weapon.
Here's the proof showing the melee damage caused to the tank and how I was able to get around up to 30-40k overall damage by the time the tank died. This assumes barely anyone else damaged it or everyone did less damage to the tank.









Also, here is the buff set that I used for the melee damage seen.







I will be making another post/ updating this post tomorrow with the thing in regards to the unusual long wait time for a map change on EU VS (which is the server we played on tonight), tomorrow night we will be going back to ASIA VS.

One more thing to note before I go: Every time someone joins, I still see that person get put into the team that makes the game more unbalanced (i.e, making a 5vs6 turn into a 5 vs 7 match) due to the way the system sorts people out. People also randomly get moved to the other team at the start of the 1st round in VS.

EDIT: BTW, there is currently no way to craft helms deep tickets right now as there isn't one from the workshop in the items section. Would be worth adding this in so other players can get to crafting them.

 

On that note with the balancing mute, I just played through the infected team in 1 map twice in a row. With the team swap changes caused by the system (it decided to auto move me from survivors to infected on 2nd round) to make the teams balanced at the time that it happened.

Here's some screenshots that show this.

First screenshot shows !players after I got auto switched to infected side. its balanced alright, but before then I did not take a look at !players on survivor side.



Back when I was on the infected team in 1st round of the same map.



Before I got switched to infected side during the beginning of 2nd round.



main characters get randomly picked again after it happened the 1st time around.



in chat, when i get moved over to the infected side because the system automatically did it.




Adding onto the screenshots is what happens with the hard rain finale bug at the start of the 1st round in hard rain VS.

First screenshot shows the 800 VS points, confirming that we are in the hard rain finale map, we are also within the wrong starting area and are meant to be in the starting area from the end of the 4th chapter saferoom onwards.



Door not glowing also confirms that us survivors are in the wrong area.



No new bugs were found to be reported at this time.

 

Found 2 bugs in VS yesterday, also have 1 question regarding a long time outstanding thing that I have wanted to clear up.

First Bug: Survivors spawn elsewhere in some maps after joining in VS
Classification?: Minor Bug
Cause?: No Known Cause

It has occurred so far in The Parish Map 3, Blood Harvest Map 3 and Dead Center Map 1. It may also occur in more maps than just these 3.

When a survivor joins VS, in these maps, they will spawn in a set location elsewhere rather than spawning where player 1. or closest player to 1. is as a survivor.

The question I wanted to ask is.
When the witch goes into a molotov/gascan fire, it deals 500 DPS to all survivors who also go inside it while the witch is still alive. Is this mean't to be a normal thing that the witch does or is it a long outstanding bug? This has also occurred in the past on COOP.



Second Bug: Insane damage on AWP Headshot on Hunter/Jockey
Classification?: Minor Bug
Cause?: the bug only seems to occur on Hunters and Jockeys when partial or full headshotted with the AWP.

Partial headshot is when the base damage dealt is x1.25 of normal damage (for AWP its 625 damage)
Full headshot is when the base damage dealt is x4.00 of normal damage (for AWP its 2000 damage)



End of bug and question post.

 

I did a little bug testing this morning in VS with keller, bee and someone else and found a few interesting things to note.




The controller charger bug is definitely still there, charging into the side of the rock wall in the first map of cold stream was all that was needed to confirm it.

The binded buff seems to properly work now on incapacitated survivors, tested it on a bot and got the proper result I needed to see.

The Bad Descent Buff bug is still there too, but I never reported this one to TAIGA. Simply put, you will get incorrect name of the survivor you paralyzed (yourself as the person who slapped survivor instead of name of survivor slapped)

However I could find no trace of the insane damage bug on sniper rifles or other weapons (we also tried with them just to make sure) occuring in ASIA VS. So i'll to officially try to find it again later tonight when we actually play VS for real in ASIA VS then.

Mute, since you asked for the currently used buff set for survivors in VS. here it is.

 

Current Bug Count: 4, Probable Bugs: 2, Fixed (non-existent bug): 1.
This number will increase the MORE bugs I find with every edit of this post before someone replies.

I had another look at the controller charger bug and the slow from the charger does not seem to be occurring in that role anymore, that bug is probably fixed itself unless otherwise. As for the other charger roles this bug never did occur on them and the bug has happened to other players in the past on the same controller role, but not from what I have seen now.

I ended up finding 2 new bugs tonight, including finding more of the insane damage on hunter with weapons bug, although you might find that the bug itself will be quite hard to reproduce due to the exact nature in which the bug happened.

The same thing might apply for one of the new bugs but that is because it is the first time I have seen this new bug happen, note that the other players also had this new bug occur to them too. The other new bug should be easier to fix however.

A potential bug that I covered previously in one of the forum posts where I had a question about it that did not get answered. If you don't know what I am referring to, it is from the above quoted post of mine.



EDIT: Updated in relation to a probable new bug involving the piercing bullets buff acting strangely against Special Infected and Tanks (used the AWP primary weapon and found this out)

Would you consider it normal for piercing bullets buff % in damage calculations to be different from what it normally is? I ain't using any of the other buff % increasing buffs with the exception of Berserk and Avenger Buff in the buff set used in the below video.



EDIT 2: A NEW bug was found with the binded buff, survivors seem to be able to crawl even after being binded. Also during today's versus match I can still confirm that the insane damage with weapons on hunters bug is still around since today. (I'll be reporting the above bug mentioned in EDIT 2 to TAIGA, this also includes other previously not mentioned ones)