Recent Changes.

It seems that changes have been made last week regarding SI spawn and T2+ tank spawns?

Player feedback:

Regarding SI spawns:
Last week I tried, amongst....7 others(or so) to win the carnival finale on easy. (gives you and idea of the other players levels, they were pretty new). I believe there were, including me, only 2 higher level players (150+). It was impossible to beat. The lower levels gave up as it was so frustrating for them just being torn apart by SI one after another. To me it seemed with this update it made it kinda impossible for newer players to beat a finale. Even on easy.
Maybe an idea would be to only have the extra SI spawn on expert level? (again, i guess the idea is to cooperate and stick together .....but well...we were picked apart due to delayed tank as he was stuck, when we ran out of our defense tower to search for it we died......) Later we played it with...i think 4 higher level players-we all died-impossible, even on easy. I played that finale 7 times >.<.

Regarding less T2+ tank spawns: it has become repetitive. Having shamans/knights etc pop up was fun. Now i play 10 campaigns + and don't see a single higher tier tank. It is rather disappointing and makes me want to play less. I bought some items at the store because when i came back it was fun seeing tanks such as the supreme shaman, inferno etc (i had never seen them before they were so rare last year)...but now, that they appear once in a blue moon .... I might (knowing myself) lose interest rather quickly again.

In summary: maybe less of the high HP SI on easy level and increased T2+ tank spawns?

That's just my 2 cents on those two issues. I heard other players disagreeing with me in SI spawns but agreeing with me on tanks. I hope there will be plenty replies from other players on these two issues so you at MG can get an overview for further/future changes, or not ^.^

Lollipop

 

1.I tottaly agree with that. the SI spawn now is madness im 200 and i cant even move from smokers jockeys hunters if there is only 5-6 player.. today we played finale we was 6 players and we can't done the finale because of this. it was better before..

2.Yes, the tank spawning tier 2 is terrible i played whole days like yesterday and we was 12-13 players who higher than 200lvl and tank lure was equiped (i asked it) tier 1 tanks spawning over and over again like grenadier bomb ghost duelist. i didnt even seen these days tier 2 tank (knight,shaman) nowhere i mean on FINALE too.. when finale ending comes the "TROLL TANKS" which are also tier 1 grenadier,bomb,ghost etc... no tier 2 trolls this is weird.. i don't know it is bugged or you guys just changed the spawn rate of tier 2 tanks but it was better before...

It will be good when you put back the previous spawning system (rate) for all or just fix this bug, if it is bug i don't know

Sorry for my english.

Thank you.

Farcry

 

The metalized tank is burning so slow.. like 30-50-100hp/s

 

You Guys are so negative......

Wheres the Challenge when you going through every Map like its a Walk in the Park ?

Its fu**ing boring .....DAMN ! This is a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE !!

You have to play as a real Team, watching each other and dont run like a chicken.


BTW These are no real Server Changes, its just temporary

 

The game has been way too easy for way too long. I see some truth to what some of you are saying, but the bottom line is this: It's a zombie game, and sometimes people die. Right now, the gamers expect to survive, and everyone always does.

Don't get me wrong, I admire the (whatever the word is) where clan members wanna be all nice to each other... so they reverse-walk a map to defib 1 person, holding up the entire campaign. Again, I think the idea is nice, even though it's not wise and holds us all up.

The game needed to have some challenge put into it. Once an appropriate amount of time has passed, we can scale it down if it's necessary. Right now, I only see people not getting rewards fast enough for their liking. I also see people who just want the same easy game as before, but with higher payout tanks all the time. PR Saturation is a real thing. Remember when everyone exploited the fuck out of the seeking grenades, thus perma-stumbling tanks? That just showers the team with free prizes. Every victory is inevitably a VICTORY.

Shamans were once absurdly low HP.

Rewards, rewards, rewards... everyone got to max level too quick. Level 215 (from 210 cap) was supposed to be a MAJOR feat. Non-booster holders would camp out and play the HD server at the time and get it in 3 days. The average gamer should be taking about 3 or 4 months (playing every day) to get there. That is PR Saturation. Yes, at the time HD rewards were too high.... about 60% too high. But at this juncture, we need to carefully scale this back and forth a little so that it stays hard. So that people do occasionally die. So that you do have to learn how to earn your rewards.

I've been advocating for new players for a long time. Will mention it here. Was privileged to have a few minutes of HC's time last night when he ever-so-generously joined Steam when I had requested it via email. He put together a STELLAR set of auto-equipped buffs for new players. COOP / VS - Surv / VS - Infected, and has out done himself yet again. They will be stronger and once they're high enough level, they will have to earn it just like you guys. The goal is so that new players don't feel overwhelmed... and don't leave after 1 discouraging map. The game is SIX YEARS OLD now... which means we have to be concerned with PR Saturation, and *RETENTION* as a major priority. Every gamer we lose is a gamer who will never come back and find another modded server community to call their home. They could have been a donor. They could have been your next awesome clan member. New players must be taken seriously and treated like welcome guests. That's why the new buffs were made for them. They will have a thrilling experience in PR-VS. They will be able to walk into the server level 1 adn actually wreck some shit, just like the level 215's who kill everyone to their spitters and tanks all day as it is.

So, in summary, things are going to stay as they are for now. The factors that affect what tanks spawn and how many spawn, and what tier spawn... they have not changed. You have more tank types than ever before, now. Please thank HC for that! One or two of them dont' auto spawn because he needs to polish them up, abilities-wise. NO, the corrosive tank will NOT be nerfed. It's supposed to be hard. Very hard. HC's school schedule resumes this coming week, so the amazing effort we saw from him last night may be the last time we see him for a little while. I personally fixed a couple bugs like the "jockey can't jump" thing and the "my tank spawns with only 4,000 HP" thing.

We have admins in game all day, every day now. You can look at the server list at any time and see an admin on a server. Every single one of my Team Members is capable of helping make the COOP experience a challenging, fair, fun and exciting one. Please dont' tell us to spawn tanks, because we do not respond well to being barked at. Please do not beg for tanks. The only way to guarantee that you will NOT see those things is to ask for them. Any admin-based event is just that... an event basis. They're first come first serve. We will never announce them, as that gives people on their lists an advantage.

Last but not least, PR-VS. Many of you have not noticed this yet, but there is an exponential increase in XP for those who play VS. Many have gone to get the boost... and stayed because they were surprised at how fun PR-VS is. The new PR-VS server location ensures MUCH better ping. That means you can get more of those awesome slap kills, and jockey / boomer combos, karma charges, and karma smoker pulls in some maps! If you don't normally play it, give it a chance. It's the zombie apocalypse... "LIVE A LITTLE!"

I covered a lot of stuff in this one reply so bear with me, but it's easier than making 10 different posts and I'm tired today!

Will be on Steam if you need me, have problems, or questions. Please message me there if bugs arise or you run into stuff like that which was mentioned before. Please also keep the server moving at all times. QUEST PEOPLE: This is exactly how long you have to do your quests: FROM THE TIME YOU ARRIVE AT THE OBJECTIVE AREA TO THE TIME THAT THE LAST MEMBER OF THE TEAM PASSES YOU. Anything beyond that, and you're holding us up. Don't do that. Quests are not supposed to be done in one sitting. Theyr'e supposed to be cumulative. This whole "he's doing a quest, we gotta wait" thing is no longer allowed. Again, you have only the time it takes from the time you get to the quest locatin... to the time the last member of the team passes you, to finish. Wrap it up, keep it moving, because if the server isnt' moving, we're going to lose gamers. We've all seen lately for a fact that we will not continue to host empty servers. If all the servers fill up, stay full, and are consistent, then we'll talk. Until then, # of servers and server occupancy limits will be based on gamer activity. If non-MG players see 3 empty mgftw.com PR servers, they'll never join us. Ever. If they see 2, and they're both populated or even full... then they suddenly want to be part of it. That's simply how it works with recruiting new people and retaining old ones.

Play hard, try the other game modes if you haven't, and if you think you're gonna suck at VS... play a few campaigns then decide for yourself. Bitch slap an admin off a ledge. You'll be surprised how good it feels. Thanks for rolling w/ the changes we're putting out there, but it's all in the best interests of MG. Again, I'll be on Steam all day. Ask if you need anything.

 

Boomers were too easy and not even anything to worry about. We discussed it and decided to run with a higher slap power for coop. Now, in carnival finale or rooftop, you'll see nothing but bodies flying left and right lol... always good laughs. Nothing like seeing a level 215 player die and then 10 subsequent "LMAO"s.

Usually for that level of humor, an admin has to die in-game. ;P

 

I'll start working on these things as soon as possible.

I don't know how to change the player count. I will ask Marvel. HC has resumed school. I realize the Parish Bridge Finale needs +1.5 minutes.

 

Wait a minute, I re-thought this. Why do we need to increase the player count for expert? It was too easy for so long and everyone said that.

Why do we need to scale it back up?